Oh, the thin ladies. This has been a point of discussion in a couple places recently, so I decided to throw in my $0.03. Gotta take inflation into account, dontcha know?
When I'm at my most energized, when I'm having a great day, when I'm ready to take the bull by the horns and logic it to death, then I talk about fat acceptance. When I'm feeling tired, and I'm having a crappy day, and I can barely manage to throw a QED at the bull, then I talk about body acceptance. You see, body acceptance is palatable to a lot of people already, at least the beginnings of it. To say, "hey, my body's ok!" is something that we've all heard for a very long time. And, because "fat" isn't in the name, it doesn't force people to think about those other bodies. You know the ones. And even though they're talking to me, a fat woman (~230 lbs, for context), for some reason it's still easy to ignore other fat bodies. Maybe they're just so blown away by my awesome that they think "of course we should accept Shoshie's body. She's just so damn shmexy!" I mean, it's totally possible.
But the same people who smile, nod, and let me ramble about body acceptance, start to get forhead wrinkles if I say the same things, but call it fat acceptance. Because now they've got a headless fatty mind invasion. They're not thinking of me, their good 'ol fat pal who they know takes dance lessons and buys into a farm share and goes on hikes with them. Now they're thinking of Homer Simpson in a muumuu eating donuts. That they have a bit more trouble smiling along with.
But here's the thing. Most fat people AREN'T Homer Simpson in a muumuu. And while we do need overall body acceptance, fat acceptance fills a different need. Average-to-thin sized women complain about not being able to find clothing that fits well. But fat women can't find clothing to even try on. Everyone is being told to trim down here and wear these clothes and your eyelashes are too short why don't you have longer eyelashes! But fat women are told that everything is wrong. You can't even partition your body into acceptable parts and innacceptable parts because the whole thing is wrong. And thin people will never be denied a job or an airplane seat because of their size.
Don't get me wrong, people are harassed for being thin. And it sucks and it's wrong. No one's voice should be marginalized. But the fact is, that for every person telling a thin woman to eat a sandwich, there's a million other sources telling her that she is the ideal. And that it would be the worst thing in the world if that were ever to change. For ever insensitive asshole who jokes about bulimia, there's 10 more who encourage thinness, and not just other insensitive assholes, but parents, doctors, teachers, mentors. They'll mask it by saying it's for health, and they don't want the person to be REALLY thin, just an "ideal weight." However, that so-called ideal weight is just as unatainnable as any picture of a supermodel.
Seriously. Really truely. And to be told your whole life by, not only the popular media, but by doctors and friends and parents and people you really trust that this is the body for you and you have failed by not getting there yet and you will always fail and you are a failure daring to sit there and watch tv or enjoy food even for a moment...
Well, that's just not something that thin people have to deal with very often. If they do, it's called abuse. But it is a very common experience for fat people. And if it doesn't happen, well then it's sometimes called abuse or neglect. That is where the fat experience differs and why we absolutely need a fat acceptance movement, maybe alongside a general body acceptance movement.
So what can you do if you're thin and you want to help fight the good fight?
1. Acknowledge your privelege. Acknowledge that, while things may suck for you on the body positivity front, if you weighed 100 lbs more things would be much, much harder. Don't believe me? How would you feel if you woke up tomorrow weighing that 100 lbs more? How would your life change? Would you feel angry? Would you feel cheated? Would you feel ashamed? What if you had a class reunion next week. Would you go?
2. Speak out against fat hatred. Jokes about fat people aren't funny, just like jokes about Jews, or people of color, or little people, or women, or people with disabilities aren't funny. Call people out on their bullshit. It's sad, but it'll mean more to them if it comes from you than if it comes from a fat person.
3. Be senstive when shopping or discussing clothing with fat friends. Go into plus size stores with them and tell them they look fabulous. Note: only do this if they've told you that they shop in plus size stores. Some people are really sensitive about that. I used to lie about where I got my clothing.
4. Don't make assumptions. About anyone. Don't assume that your fat friends are sedentary or eat unhealthfully. If they do, don't badger them about it. They're probably aware.
5. If a fat friend is complaining that she can't find anything to wear, or she's so fed up about our thin culture, don't get defensive, don't make it about you. Don't try to relate to her by saying that you also have such a hard time finding clothing and you totally don't look like a supermodel either. It's not the same, and you know it. Listen to her. Let her cry on your shoulder or rant or whatever she needs, and then tell her that she's awesome.
These aren't all easy things, but they're important. If you want to be an ally, that's wonderful! But please please PLEASE listen to what people have to say, first and foremost. If you haven't lived in a fat body, then you have a lot to learn about that experience. Please try to do that learning before getting annoyed or defensive. And if you want to talk about how hard it is to be a thin person in America, well, blogger accounts are free.
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
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Totally! Wonderful post! You know, I have a fat friend, a thin friends, and a friend in the middle and they're all supportive of me. I'm extremely lucky.
Women, we need to stick together! Look at the beauty in one another, fat or thin and give a kind word now and then. We're sisters on this planet, not enemies determined by size!
This is a fantastic post. Reading and getting more involved in FA has really opened my eyes to privileged I am just to be able to walk into most straight size stores and find something in my size. Even if I'm at the very top of their size range, even if I've almost sized out of some of the trendier stores (i.e. Forever21 pre-plus size section), and even though BMI-wise I'm borderline obese, there are so many things I jut cannot understand because I haven't experienced them
So...thank you.
Here by way of Big Fat Deal. An insightful and well-written post. So much so, I tweeted and bookmarked it.
Good post!
Being a naturally thin person all my life, I used to be ridiculed as well. To me, it didn't matter if it was one person or a million people who said something. It still hurt. Fat hatred and thin hatred may not be the same, but I wouldn't say one is worse than the other either. Hurtful comments effect everyone in different ways and to different degrees. It is something that is unique to everyone.
If a fat friend complains about not fnding clothes or is feeling down about fat hatred, I will listen and comfort her. But I would hope she would do the same for me after encountering a skinny joke, while not making it about her.
Delurking...this is great. As a thin person, I want to be an ally instead of a look-how-enlightened-I-am jerk but I'm not sure I always pull it off! Thanks for your thoughts - so helpful. (Yes, I know that you didn't post them specially for privileged old me...but it is really helpful.)
If it's appropriate to share, one thing I have found useful in supporting members of oppressed groups to which I don't belong is this mental exercise: If there was a parade or rally for the civil rights of this group, where would it be right for me to stand? At the very front, making big speeches? Uh, no. On the sidelines, staring but not offering support? Again, no. How about in the parade, adding my voice but NOT shouting over the people who are actually members of the group? Hmmm...better... This isn't a perfect analogy, but I have found it helps. (If anyone knows where this came from, please let me know. I know I didn't make it up.)
I'm posting anonymously because I don't have a google account but I occasionally post as AnotherKate at Shapely Prose and am pretty sure I've passed the non-troll test over there.
Ugh - responding to myself (anonymous above) - I suppose it's a sign of my thin (etc.) privilege that you posted several substantive, concrete, helpful tips and I responded by going into an off-topic riff on metaphorical parades. Sorry about that, feel free to remove!
-AnotherKate
Heh, AnotherKate, don't worry about it. I think that your metaphor is a good one. :)
hi! great post! I want to quibble a little with number one. Thin privilege DEFINITELY exists and thin pain is NOT the same as fat pain. What I don't like is comparing pain with words like "harder than" - yes, it is certainly different than. And a fat person will be oppressed based on their fat, and a thin person won't be. As someone who has woken up not 100, but 70 lbs heavier than I used to be, I can definitely say things are different now - some things better, some things worse. Granted, had this happened overnight, *yes* life would have been much harder. But right now I prefer being in the "overweight" category to that dark place I was 70 lbs ago. It's different. People certainly aren't as nice to me now. I can't shop wherever I want. But I do enjoy things like what it means to actually be healthy. I hate that people were nicer to me 70 lbs ago. On the other hand, I love that I'm not depriving myself all the time. I think it's different for everyone. I guess what I'm getting at is that if *only* the weight changes, it will most definitely be harder at the heavier weight - but I think that weight changes like that correspond with lots of other things too (I don't mean a "lifestyle" change that's really a diet...I mean things like being miserable on a diet, or practicing enough self love to not constantly deprive oneself, and other things)...Please call me out if I've hijacked the thread. I think you're right about the key being to listen and not get defensive and claim that thin jokes are the same as fat jokes. (Um, I know it's diff for everyone, but I still preferred the thin jokes to the fat ones, they never did hurt as much). And I think things will change again if I wake up 100 lbs heavier tomorrow. It's not the same for everyone, and I do think it's time to stop pretending like body dysmorphia is the same as actually being fat. Not at all. They're different.
hey, I've been regretting posting this comment ever since I made it! I want to apologize for coming in here and going, "but what about teh thinz!" I think that if everything stays the same, you're absolutely right - it's much harder to live 100 lbs heavier. It's much easier to be naturally thin than naturally fat. With my own experience, I am happier with the extra 70 lbs because I'm not starving myself and hating myself all the time. But, yeah, people were nicer to me 70 lbs ago! If I were 70 lbs lighter and nothing else changed, life would definitely be easier.
I used to be hired for jobs without having my refs checked. It used to be, you're hired, when you can start ending the interview. Now its, "We have many applicants...etc
I get treated differently in stores, in hair salons - everywhere. When I drop something trying to juggle a lot of things I'm holding people stare at me but no one helps. Not one or two people staring, but several on all sides will see me having trouble or dropping things. Used to be people practically fought over helping me. Like they used to hold doors, give up seats, offer help, number, cards - and free stuff galore! I got free bus rides - and usually door to door - forget bus stops, even when I didn't win at amusement parks I got prizes and though I don't drink if I went along with friends, not only did other guys buy free drinks for me but the bartender too!
Here via SP & Feministe--
Hmmmm...on "body acceptance":
I use "body acceptance" as a tag on my blog because I've only ever been inbetweenie or thin/underweight, and I didn't feel like it was my right to appropriate "fat acceptance" for my own brand of whinging.
On the other hand, it IS an easier term to use when you don't want to expend spoons.
Great post!
Great post! (It's my first time on your blog.)
I'm definitely on the privileged side--thin, but with enough boobs and butt to preclude "anorexia" jokes, and I 100% cosign on calling out those whiny thin people. (Yea, I said it.) To me, those folks are often reminiscent of the stereotypical "Why-do-all-of-the-boys-chase-after-me?" high school girl, because the complaints seem very self-congratulatory. No, people shouldn't give you shit for being skinny (and I do believe this, even if this post sounds callous--my best friend is labelled too thin all of the time, plus there's the intersectionality of being a Black woman and the expectations that come along with that), but you know you wouldn't trade places with a fat person if your life depended on it. You can find support for your struggles with being "too thin" (like my friend has, privately, with me) without drowning out the voices of women who have it a gazillion times worse.
/End rant
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